Interview with David Vincent (April 1996)
By Dave Rohrback
from From Beyond
I don't think Morbid Angel should need any further introduction, so why don't you just dive into this interview with David Vincent in late April ('96) just before he left the band
When you played in Norway and others parts of Europe, you
hooked up with immortal and Moonspell as supporting bands. With the
surplus of bands in this area, how did they receive the honor to open ?
David : "We actually requested those bands. Contrary to popular
opinion, we are one of the few bands who has made an attempt to support
underground. We've consistently taken out young promised bands and tried
to help more underground bands. They would obviously have to show some
sort of effort and not just any shitty tape that comes thought the door.
Somebody who seems to have something going on and are working hand
towards something. We try to rewards that with an opportunity to play in
front of some bigger audiences and tour bigger than they have
previously. No one ever did that for us. The slayers and the megadeths
and the bigger bands of the world. They'd just laugh at us any time we
ever asked to go on their tours. We made a commitment a long time ago
not to be not to be that way and we were going to try to give something
back to the people. We've always had to do everything on our own because
either we were just too extreme for this or too whatever for that and a
lot of people took at things in different ways. Certainly not a creative
way, the way we look at things."
So I'm assuming you go to know the bands on the tour.
"We actually shared a bus with Immortal so we had a good
opportunity to hang out with the guys and I'm real happy that we took
them because they're not only good band, but good friends. Moonspell
went great also."
Where else Scandinavia did you travel ?
"Well, we played in Sweden, but they didn't do the Swedish show
with us, but they did to Denmark. They had a studio commitment already
when they say they'd do the tour so they missed around the last three
weeks of the seven-week tour. When we went up through Norway they just
got off in Oslo. We went down south to Italy, Spain
How about Lithuania ?
"No. A lot of these countries that have been under communism for so
long
it's going to take them awhile. It's not an overnight thing. I
feel pretty hopeful because we've gone through Poland in the past and I
remember going through east Germany when it was still part of the
"soviet block" and things were a lot of different and
nowadays, even though it still seems like it's hard. I have a lot of
faith in the people that they're really going to go somewhere and make
things happen."
Where did you receive the best response in Europe ?
"It's really hard to say because each country is a different
language and culture and a lot of things, but I know we did a lot of
shows in France this time ant that went real well and before that we
only played in Paris, but this time we actually got into the
countryside. That went really well and I was happy to do that."
From Europe where did you go ?
"After Europe we went back to the us and did another tour there and
then Australia"
And in the states you played with dissection and at the gates.
"Right"
How did those shows go ?
"Better then the grip inc. shows. Our manager manages Grip Inc.,
also and that's how that worked out."
How did you hook up with those two bands ?
"Earache brought over at the gates and we were looking fog another
band that was able to tour and dissection were one of those. That's the
whole thing, sometimes it costs so much money to tour that, in addiction
to being a good band, the band's record company has to help out with
some of the bills because the cost of travel and hotels and everything
is more than you make a show, so there's always a shortfall most of the
time. Traditionally it's the Records Company that picks up that bill,
but some of these bands are on such small labels, the companies really
don't have the resources to give tour support. There have been bands in
the past we've wanted to take. We've tried to make it work, but they
just didn't have the funds to make it happen and outside me, out of my
pocket, paying all their bills, well, that's no going to happen. I have
hard enough time paying my own. It'd been cool if it didn't have to be
that way, but money always finds a way in there and is a factor."
Has Giant Records been supportive ?
"They've been pretty supportive. They just really don't know what
to do with us. Compared to anything else on the label, we're just a
rogue band. We have to basically tell them what to do almost all the way
down the line. Whether or not we even do another album for them
we
had a two record deal with options after that but with our next option
they'd have to come up with so much money that I don't know. The budget
was the same for the first two, but by the time the third came, it all
of a sudden goes into another league. Our manager said he thinks they
might be kind of scared of it. But they've definitely helped us sell
more records and get some good videos out and distribute our records
throughout the stores, which we never really had just on imports."
Have has domination been selling ?
"It's been selling really well."
Some people were a little thrown of by Covenant, saying MA were
changing and going in a different direction
"We don't ever change our direction. We just add to what we already
have? I know what it sounds like when a band changes their direction
because a lot if my favorite bands leave done that. Consequently,
they're not my favorite bands anymore. We've always had kind of a broad
sound anyway and rather than narrow or limit it to on single thing we
do, we like to do a lot of different things. When we get ideas, we just
try them out and see how it sounds and frankly I like when there's a
really big variation between songs because it makes more interesting to
listen to as supposed to every song, one after the other, sounding the
same and, you'd know, we could do that right up there with the best of
them
seen we've done that. We've done all those things. We've had
some of the fastest stuff out, some of the slowest stuff out and we just
like all the different extremes."
Getting back the tour, who did you play with it in Australia ?
"We had local support throughout Australia. We didn't pick a band.
It went really well, through there were some shows where it was slow,
but overall the tour did well. I'll tell you, I like going down there.
The people have a good feeling about life down there. It's not really
crowded, so people aren't as ornery as people you would find in area
were there's a lot of people and everyone's on the edge. So much free
space down there. Definitely worth visiting. In a lot of respects it's
like America. The prices are affordable. You can get decent food. The
nature is really nice."
Now you're back in the US. Are you working on new material ?
"Well, I'm working on a lot of things. I've got a couple of
different projects going and the next things Morbid Angel has are some
festivals in the summer in Europe."
Would you mind divulging information on some of your projects ?
"Well, this is a Morbid Angel interview, so let's keep it
there."
Okay, as far as MA is concerned, you're the main lyricist of the
band. "Caesar's palace " is, I know, about Caesar
"Well, it's not really so much about Caesar necessarily as a
person. I mean, it was inspired by that, but it's more the idea of
pre-Christian society and having morals that're more in tune with the
earth as they are to some book and egalitarian point of view. Things
weren't always that way. They used to be very specific things that were
the case and nowadays things are just so random
I don't really
like it as much and I just really get inspired
I mean as an old
man would say "those were the good ol' days". Being a student
of history, I'm really inspired by that and mainly it's the idea of a
society without Christianity. It's not even taking society and ridding
it of that, but just kind of a dream of taking a time machine back into
that sort of a prehistoric time."
And "Inquisition" comes from a different viewpoint of
being a witch.
"Putting myself in their shoes. I try to personalize things. I can
tell and read stories until the cows come home, but when you can look
deep inside and make a statement that's coming from your person whether
it's fantastic or reality to it, you leave that up to the
listener."
Songs like "Melting" and "Dreaming"... do you
have any input on those kinds of songs ?
"No. Those are just input from trey and Eric."
And speaking of Erik Rutan, is he working out satisfactory.
"Oh yeah. Eric is such a fantastic guitar player... that's the
first and foremost. He's really put in the hours or years of mastering
his instrument and he's one of the best guitar player I've ever seen.
He's got technique that one only gets from sitting in the room and
playing eight to ten hours a day. He practiced on his stuff and not
someone else's, so he's fluent in his style every bit as much as any of
those other guitar heroes out of there. It's just what he does with it.
He started playing his own stuff and just somehow worked its way out.
That the same route Trey went. He never played covers because he just
kind of started out in his room just playing air guitar, listening to
some of the old stuff he did and I think it's really special when a
player can really develop a style like that. You can go around and
listen to anybody play the latest Joe Satriani and I'm just so bored
with that. I like to gear passion coming off a guitar player. I don't
wan tot hear how somebody can play a billion notes and fit them in and
I'm just into that at all. I want of hear somebody really move me and
make the guitar speak. Passion, it's the main thing."
Yeah, trey more than mentioned he's a big fan of Eddie Van Halen.
"Yeah, but when he says that, he's not copying and we're not a Van
Halen band. I mean no one could listen to us and confuse it. He's just
inspired by the ways Eddie came out of the box with such fresh-sounding
technique and the ways he does the taps and some of other technique and
previous to that the same way he was with Michael Schenker and Frank
Marino and Tony Iommi
people that weren't just another lead guitar
player in some band as opposed to somebody who had passion and could
really make their guitar say something. That separates the men from the
boys, I think. The mature player to the player who just goes through the
motions."
Right. I feel the most enigmatic song on the LP is probably
"Hatework" which features a solo that literally can blow you
against the wall
"We're getting into the habit of making the last song on the record
a total departure. I love it. I think it's a masterpiece."
Very militant the style the drums are played
"Oh yeah, that made it. The snare drum, the way Eric had it set up,
was mainly timpani and one of our assistant engineers who's kind of a
keyboard programmer also, he wanted us to check it out because he heard
that and we kind of overlooked it
you see, we're in the studio and
each of us are so trained on what we personally have to do that
sometimes we see the tree and not the forest, if you know what I mean.
That's why it's really good to have producers. I'm seeing such a benefit
with that now because sometimes you get caught up and look too closely
at couple of little things and you don't end up and look too closely at
a couple of little things and you don't end up seeing the whole picture
whereas sometimes an outside car that didn't write the songs will come
in and say "what if we try this or that" and it may be the
best idea in the world and it may have been something that if you had
another year to sit and listen you may have come up with, you don't have
the luxury of that amount of time, so getting in there and being able to
work with a good producer, that changed me. I'm a changed man after
that."
Could you tell us about any new Morbid Angel material that has
been written ?
"Well
I really don't like to preempt myself, but I don't think
anyone's going to be upset."
I wouldn't doubt it. Just by the response from domination as well
as the demand for Morbid Angel interviews and/or paraphernalia it's
pretty easy to say the band is moving onward and upward.
"Well, that's great. We write stuff that we really like and hat o
been just a fan of the band starting off and I bought these records. I'd
be happy with them. It's definitely very rewarding when you've finished
something. ... I mean, we put more onto this last record, we spent more
time and money on it than we ever have on a record before. It sure is
gratifying when people can come up to you and say "man, such n'such
a song at this part
I can really identify with it" and just
come up to you after the show and you can look in their eyes and tell
that you've been able to share something that deep with someone on that
level, that's what makes it all worthwhile."
When did you officially join Morbid Angel, David ?
"I joined Morbid Angel in 1986. It had been around. I guess, since
late 1984 played shows and did a couple of rehearsal tapes and a couple
of shows in '86. Right after those shows is when I got into the band.
I've been in the band for ten years."
Back then, did you ever think you'd be as popular as you are
today ?
"I can't say I looked at things on that level as far as how popular
we would be. We worked hard to be unique and to try to be the best, but
we never had any idea this type of music would get the
"popularity" that it does as a genre. When we were doing this,
it was the furthest thing from being cool, I mean, nobody was doing
really. We had big band house, everybody lived in a terrible side town
and we just worked crummy jobs during the day and played all night. It
was really for us
we started playing shows, but we really into
what we were doing and, like I said, it is very rewarding that it has
been able to touch people the way it has. Ultimately, it had to touch us
first."
Now when you were picked up by Giant Records which is essentially
a major label, Columbia was signing a bunch of bands from the Earache
roster such as Cathedral and Carcass and basically all of these bands
except for maybe Cathedral have gone somewhat downhill. They've been
dropped by Columbia and their sound has changed for the most part,
thereby lessening their fanbase a bit, meanwhile Morbid Angel's seem to
be escalating with every consecutive album and that's something to look
at.
"Well, we weren't part of that. That's getting into a realm sticky
area, that whole Columbia thing, but we didn't wan t to be a part of
that. We saw the writing on the wall. We do what we have to do. I can't
really comment on the other bands or success or the popularity. Everyone
really has to live with whatever they do themselves. I can only say that
everything, we try to be as honest and true to ourselves,
straightforward and laying it on the line as we possibly can. That's
been our key to being able to survive for as long as we have."